The Sacred

The Sacred

A podcast about the things we hold sacred, and how to talk to people different from ourselves.

Nick Cave and Seán O'Hagan on grief, faith and navigating disagreement

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Nick Cave is a multi award-winning Australian rock singer-songwriter who over his 40+ year long career has seen the release of countless records, film scores, and writings. Seán O’Hagan is an award-winning journalist for the The Guardian with a speciality in photography.

The two of them spoke about faith and religion, the transformative nature of grief, and the experience of writing their book Faith, Hope and Carnage together.

Read the full transcript here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2023/01/18/nick-cave-and-sen-ohagan-on-grief-faith-and-navigating-disagreement

Buy a copy of Faith, Hope and Carnage here: https://store.nickcave.com/products/faith-hope-and-carnage?variant=39745220706370&gclid=Cj0KCQiAiJSeBhCCARIsAHnAzT825KTMDyylIfsYWZMOeO9Sl2vpBly9Dr69h7ovz3E5CIAFBux6e-oaAtMJEALw_wcB

CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 02:53 What do you hold sacred? Seán O'Hagan's response. 06:09 Disagreements about faith and religion 11:10 Nick Cave's sacred value 15:32 The transcendent nature of grief 23:54 Faith, Grief, Art and Surrender 27:47 Nick Cave's faith and theology 36:40 The true complexity of faith 40:44 The universal experience of grief 47:31 ‘I/Thou’ moments and pursuing better dialogue 55:50 Forgiveness and the Christian liturgical calendar 01:05:38 Reflection and outro

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About this podcast

The Sacred is a podcast about our deepest values, the stories that shape us and how we can build empathy and understanding between people who are very different.

Each episode features a conversation with someone who has a public voice, from academics to journalists, playwrights and politicians. We ask them where they have come from, what they are trying to do and what might help heal our very divided public conversations.

The Sacred is hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield, former director of Theos think tank.

For more information about the people and ideas behind the podcast, visit https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/about/who-we-are or follow us on Twitter @theosthinktank, @sacred_podcast and @ESOldfield.

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