David Goodhart is a writer, researcher, author and journalist, who currently serves as head of Integration Hub & Demography at Policy Exchange. He was one of the founding editors of Prospect magazine, and the centre-left think tank Demos.

In this episode, Elizabeth speaks to David about his work between different areas of the political spectrum, and how his childhood experiences shaped the way he understood the communities around him. He also speaks about the consequences of his changing views on immigration, place and the future of Britain post-Brexit.

This episode also features an interview with Theos' head of relationships Natan Mladin.

'The Sacred' is supported by Theos think tank (@theosthinktank) and hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield (@theoselizabeth). It is produced by Hussein Kesvani (@HKesvani) and No Country Media.