The Sacred

The Sacred

A podcast about the things we hold sacred, and how to talk to people different from ourselves.

#29 Nick Payne

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Nick Payne is an award winning playwright and screenwriter. His plays 'Constellations', and 'If There is I Haven’t Found it Yet' have been performed in London and New York and his series 'Wanderlust' was recently screened on BBC 1 and Netflix. Nick adapted Julian Barnes's The Sense Of An Ending for BBC Films which was released in 2017 with Jim Broadbent.Jake Gyllenhaal will star in Nick's play A Life which will run at The Public Theater on Broadway from January to March 2019.

In this episode he discusses why publically funded arts are sacred to him, the difficulty of writing about religious belief as an agnostic, and why he thinks the theatre is vital for creating space to reflect on what kind of society we want to be.

Boxing Day Announcement

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There is no full episode of The Sacred as we are taking a break over Christmas. Instead, here's a short message from Elizabeth about dealing with difference in our very own homes and some announcements about next year's exciting line-up.

#28 Andrew Copson

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Andrew Copson is Chief Executive of Humanists UK, previously known as the British Humanist Association, and was formerly Director of Education and Public Affairs at the same organisation. He is also President of the International Humanist and Ethical Union, the global umbrella body for atheist, humanist, sceptic and secularist organisations. He has contributed to several books on secularism and humanism and is the author of Secularism: Politics, Religion, and Freedom.

In this episode he discusses his childhood in the midlands, his sacred values of freedom, family and community, and how Blair’s backing of faith schools in the late nineties felt like a disruption of destiny. The episode also covers the pressures on campaigning organisations around integrity, navigating adversarial situations productively and the sometimes unspoken challenges of being friends across divides.

This episode was edited for content and clarity. If you would like to listen to the full version, you can access it here: https://soundcloud.com/thesacredpodcast/28-andrew-copson-full-interview/s-EFaPh

#27 Remona Aly

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Remona Aly is a journalist who writes for the Guardian, presents Pause For Thought on BBC Radio 2, Something Understood on BBC Radio 4, and the podcast Things Unseen. Previously, she was the deputy editor of emel, a glossy Muslim lifestyle magazine, and is director of communications of the Exploring Islam Foundation.

In this episode she discusses how she finds riches and wisdom in a wide range of faith traditions — but is ultimately “in love” with Islam, how she deals with the abuse she gets as a public Muslim woman, and why she loves going to Friday night dinner with her Jewish friends.

#26 Seth Anziska

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Dr Seth Anziska an American historian living in London. He is the Mohamed S. Farsi-Polonsky Lecturer in Jewish-Muslim Relations at University College London and a visiting fellow at the U.S./Middle East Project. His writing has appeared in the New York Times, Foreign Policy, and Haaretz, and He is the author of Preventing Palestine: A Political History from Camp David to Oslo

In this episode, Seth talks about his orthodox Jewish upbringing, the role of historical records in understanding ourselves, and why powerless populations often lose access to their past through lack of archives or reliance on oral history. He discusses why he resists commenting on every controversy, the “noble dream” of objectivity, and why he is an academic willing to be open about his personal story.

#25 Chine McDonald

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Chine McDonald is the media and PR lead for Christian Aid, one of the world's largest and best known non profit organisations. She was previously director of communications & membership for the Evangelical Alliance, overseeing the editorial and fundraising teams, as well as the team that looks after 3,600 church and 600 organisation members. She read theology at Cambridge University, where she was also news editor of the university newspaper Varsity.

In this episode, Chine talks about growing up in Lagos, Nigeria before moving to South London, her experiences growing up with faith in her household, and how she navigated that faith when attending university. She also talks about how race and gender are essential parts of any discussion around common values, and how "opting out of identity politics" is much easier said than done, especially if you are a woman of colour.

#24 Casper ter Kuile

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Casper ter Kuile is a host of the "Harry Potter and the Sacred Text" podcast, a show that dissects J.K. Rowling’s classic series as if it were the Torah or the Bible. He was a Ministry Innovation Fellow at Harvard Divinity School and is also a strategist at the podcast "On Being" with Krista Tippett.

In this episode, Casper talks about growing up in a non- religious environment but coming to religion on his own terms, his history in climate activism and how that led him to divinity school, as well as why it's useful explore texts like Harry Potter as 'sacred', as a way to appreciate its nuances and more subtle, but still prescient, messages.

#23 Michael Wear

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Michael Wear is the founder of Public Square Strategies LLC, a consulting firm that helps businesses, non-profits, foundations, and Christian organizations at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Wear directed faith outreach for President Obama's historic 2012 re-election campaign and was one of the youngest White House staffers in modern American history, leading evangelical outreach and helping manage the White House's engagement on religious and values issues, including adoption and anti-human trafficking efforts. He holds an honorary position at the University of Birmingham's Edward Cadbury Centre for the Public Understanding of Religion, and serves on the national board of Bethany Christian Services.

In this episode, Elizabeth talks to Michael about growing up as a Catholic in the Mid West, converting to Evangelicalism, working in the White House under Barack Obama and how religion fits into identity politics - something that he argues will be fundamental in the run up to the 2020 Presidential election.

"The Sacred" will be performing its first live recording at the Church and Media conference, on the 18th October 2018. To book your tickets, follow the Eventbrite link here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/church-and-media-conference-2018-tickets-35571817263

#22 Teresa Bejan

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Teresa Bejan is Associate Professor of Political Theory in the Department of Politics and International Relations at the University of Oxford and a Fellow of Oriel College. Her book, Mere Civility: Disagreement and the Limits of Toleration (Harvard University Press) examines contemporary calls for civility in light of seventeenth-century debates about religious toleration in England and America. Many of the pressing questions facing liberal democracies today—such as what the proper scope of religious liberty should be, or how to handle partisanship and hate speech—closely recall early modern concerns about the limits of toleration and so-called “persecution of the tongue.”

In this episode, Teresa talks to Elizabeth about her book, the importance of building resilience when being confronted with ideas different from our own, and why not having a thick skin when it comes to critique, might be a good thing.

#21 John Lloyd

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John Lloyd is a television producer best known for his work on such comedy television programmes as Not the Nine O'Clock News, Spitting Image, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Blackadder and QI. He is also the presenter of the BBC radio 4 series "The Museum of Curiosity".

In this episode, Lloyd talks about growing up in a secular household but not calling himself an atheist, the role of comedy in presenting new ideas and challenging dogma, and what he's learnt from studying other religions - including from Sufi poetry.

This podcast is a project of Theos Think Tank (@theosthinktank) and is hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield (@theoselizabeth).

About this podcast

The Sacred is a podcast about our deepest values, the stories that shape us and how we can build empathy and understanding between people who are very different.

Each episode features a conversation with someone who has a public voice, from academics to journalists, playwrights and politicians. We ask them where they have come from, what they are trying to do and what might help heal our very divided public conversations.

The Sacred is hosted by Elizabeth Oldfield, former director of Theos think tank.

For more information about the people and ideas behind the podcast, visit https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/about/who-we-are or follow us on Twitter @theosthinktank, @sacred_podcast and @ESOldfield.

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